Sunday, September 27, 2015

Why I Am Okay With Being Excommunicated From the Mormon Church



Last week I was excommunicated from the Mormon church. Wow...lets just sit on that for a second because that is kind of a big deal, right? (See bottom of page for explanation of what excommunication is.) I mean, this is the church that I was raised in. I sang primary songs about popcorn growing on trees, talking streams, and melting snowmen. I went on countless camping trips and learned to how to burn just about anything. I went to conference after conference and became a scriptorian. I went to seminary all through high school and had to wake up at 5am to attend every day. I even served a 2 year mission for my church where I dedicated every single day of my life to serving the Lord. And now...I can't even say I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They say it's now like I was never even baptized. I am supposed to be distraught with the church's decision to take away my membership. I am supposed to feel terrible. I am supposed to not have the Spirit as my constant companion. I am supposed to want to repent and never be with men. Well...that is at least what people say.

So why am I okay with being excommunicated? Let me try to explain, but I am warning you that most of you won't understand. But if you love me, then please read this anyways to see where I am coming from. When I got home from my mission I realized that to remain remain celibate and not pursue relationships with other men was going to be hard, but not an impossible thing. I believe, "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me" (Philippians 4:13). I belonged to a church whose main statement to the world is that the heavens are still opened and every single human being can pray and receive answers from God. I desired to have a strong witness from my Father in Heaven that my decision to live the way the prophets were telling me, specifically in regards to homosexual relationships, was the correct decision. I believed in this church and everything it taught me so that is why I chose to not pursue relationship with men. I had been telling people for 2 years to pray to know the truth. To not just believe what we were teaching them as missionaries, but to ask God if these things are true. I decided to take my own advice, and the church's advice, and pray to know that I was making the correct decision in the matters of my love life (lack thereof).

I decided to make it a matter of prayer for when I went to the temple. I love the temple and always received a great spirit when I attended. December 17th of 2014 was the day I went to the Lord in prayer, asking him if the decision to live the way I had been taught was correct. It was that day that my life changed forever. I received an answer to that prayer in a profound way that can never be described in words. I won't go into full detail but the answer was that sometimes it is part of God's plan, His plan, to break a commandment. It was as clear as the sun on a bright summer's day that it was part of my plan to partake of the forbidden fruit. 

HOW WAS THIS POSSIBLY A REVELATION FROM GOD??? How could I get an answer that is telling me something different from what the prophets have told us. I doubted the answer I got so much! It shook my faith immensely. I continued to pray and fast about it. I went to the temple time and time again to try to make sure I was tuned into the right station and not just conjuring up false revelation in my head. But no matter how many times I asked the same thing over again, I always got the same answer and the same feeling of peace. 

"Andy, maybe you just think you got that revelation because you wanted it so badly." That is a very valid point and one that I had to ask myself honestly. I decided to compare this revelation I received to how I have received revelation in the past. How did it feel? What were my thoughts? When I was 20 years old, I prayed to know if The Book of Mormon was true and I got a strong feeling of peace and clear words in my mind that it was true. That exact same feeling came to me every time I prayed about my decision of how to live my life. So in comparing this revelation to past revelation...it is the same. If I still think that I must have just made up this new answer in my mind, then I would also have to think that maybe I did the same thing when I prayed to know if The Book of Mormon was true. Maybe I just wanted the church to be true so badly that I conjured up that revelation I received. Now I have to question if I believe in the church.

My conclusion: When I prayed to know if The Book of Mormon was true...that was revelation and I believe this is the true church. When I prayed to know if I should follow what the church's stance is on homosexuality...that was revelation also

Where do I stand now? Since that revelation in December I slowly started trying to date guys. I thought I would feel incredibly guilty about it but I just felt peace (and sometimes nervous...especially if my date was really cute). I plan to continue in this way of life and hope to one day find someone to spend the rest of my life with (Maybe even adopt some beautiful babies). 

What are your beliefs towards the church? That was a hard one at first. I started having questions like, "Well, if they are wrong about homosexuality then what else are they wrong about?" Here is what I believe. The church is run by men and a lot of things are dictated by social things. The church is not ready for where I am at and that is fine. I still believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I need the Atonement to heal me and make me better. I need him too! I love my Heavenly Father with all of my heart. I believe that we can all receive revelation for our own lives personally. I am also not going to go around saying this is what the church's stance should be. This was personal revelation. This is the way for me to live my life. It is not my place to tell someone in a similar situation what to do. That is between the individual and God.

Why did I choose excommunication? You may be like..."Um...Andy...you didn't choose to be excommunicated...the church chose that." Well I kind of did. Like I said, I have felt no guilt in this choice. I still feel the spirit in my life daily and to be perfectly honest I feel closer to God than I ever have...including when I was on my mission. The only thing I didn't like about this situation is that I had to lie at church. I had to pretend that I wasn't living this life. Lying is easy to do but it can eat at you. I could have kept up the charade for much longer if I wanted to, but I decided that authenticity is the most important thing to me right now. I have had to lie and pretend my whole life and I done with it. I don't want to wear a mask any longer. If that means the church has to take steps to discipline me...so be it.

How do you feel? Like I mentioned earlier, I was told that I was supposed to feel horrible about being excommunicated. You know how I feel though...I just feel so much peace. I feel the spirit comforting me every day. When I have had second thoughts about this new way of life I am immediately comforted and reminded that this is the right path for me. Do I believe that just because a room full of men told me I no longer have the blessing and privileges of a member of the church that that is true? No, I don't. God is the judge. He has judged my heart and knows me perfectly. I know where I stand with God and I don't need any person to tell me where he thinks I stand. 

Are you still going to go to church? Yes, I am. Simple as that. Like I have said, I still believe in Jesus Christ. I am the same Andy you knew before. I have the same strong testimony, the same desire to become as Christlike as I can, the same desire to serve. Many people will look at me and think that I am just giving up or giving into temptation. They would be wrong. This decision came directly from an answer to prayer and is not something I rationalized myself into doing. I was set and ready to go to spend the rest of my life alone. Aren't you so happy for me now that that doesn't necessarily have to happen. 

A lot of people have asked me if I am okay. I am being completely honest when I say I am great. It is disappointing that it had to come to this, but I am fine with the results. The worst part about it though is knowing what many of you are thinking of me now. If I would have seen myself a year ago I would have been distraught with where my life is at this moment. If I had a friend or family member get excommunicated it would have broken my heart. I know how a lot of you feel and it makes me sad to know how much pain this decision may bring you. Some of you that are reading this may be former leaders of mine, former friends, my mission presidents, members from the wards I served in when I was a missionary, converts that I baptized into the church, former missionary companions, former missionaries I served with, current friends, etc. I KNOW HOW YOU MAY BE FEELING. Just know that I am happy...SOOOO incredibly happy!

Let's face it...as much as we all pretend to know how judgement day will work out...none of us really know. Don't just assume that because I now have an "X" instead of a check on one of my boxes means I am going to hell...because the Gospel of Jesus Christ is not a checklist kind of thing anyways. The reason it took so long to tell all of you this is because of the fear I had that you would no longer think of me the same. Many people have said they look up to me (literally and figuratively) and I may let some of you down. I have to live my life for myself though and the way that I see fit. 

Now you know. I don't know what else to say. Ask me questions all you want...but don't lecture me. If you read my post you know how much thought and time I put into this decision and you know how confident I am in it. Don't waste my time with fire and brimstone. I know everything you want to say to me anyways. Everything. I know what the scriptures say, I know what the prophets say, I know! I hope you can learn to love other more from this post. I hope you can learn that things are not always the way they seem and that is why we should never judge. I am still on the path to becoming my best self...are you?



***As harsh as excommunication may sound, it is not intended to be a punishment or exilement. As a member of the church, you make promises to God to keep his commandments and when you break those commandments you are breaking those sacred promises. Since I have made many covenants with God, excommunication is indented to help me so that I am no longer held accountable to those promises anymore. 

It is also meant to protect the name of the church. Simply put, they don't want people to believe that the lifestyle I have chosen is okay with them. 

It is not supposed to be a means to kick someone out and say they are not welcome. I can still attend church actively. The difference now is I am not considered "worthy" to serve in the church. Our church is run purely by volunteer work. I can no longer serve in any form. I cannot pray in church meetings or give talks anymore. I no longer am a holder of the priesthood which is the power to act in God's name.




11 comments:

  1. Thank you for not being a hater. For not bad mouthing the church, the gospel, the leadership, the doctrine and other believers. Thank you for not forsaking the revelations you've had confirming gospel truths while you figure out how to integrate them with the new revelation you've had for your life. I sense no venom in your words as you describe the excommunication process you've been through. I admire you for choosing to love the people of the LDS church. My only advice might be to "Feast upon the words of Christ. For the words of Christ will tell you all things what year shall do." (Yes, I did kinda borrow that advice from Nephi...)

    Best wishes for your continued great attitude,
    Belinda

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  2. It's not a bad or good thing to be excommunicated from a religion but it's hypocritical if it happens.

    Matthew 7:1-2 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
    2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

    And all the work that you have put in us just that "work".

    Ephesians 2:8-9
    8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
    9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

    In the end, your personal relationship with Jesus Christ is what matters most before any religious affiliations, I am a child of God first before I am southern baptist.

    I commend you for not bashing other Christians for thier following in a church. One thing I will add is that just because you will not hold a "priesthood" in a religion does not mean that you cannot reach out to lost souls and preach the gospel in God's name. The day you got saved and washed in the blood of Jesus is the day you were given that right to act and move in God's name..With that I end with

    Mark 16:15 Go ye into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature .

    Keep praising God and you will continue to see the changes happen in your life.

    Godspeed my friend.

    Roderick. Your brother in Christ

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  3. Andy - this is beautiful. I love your light and your love and your testimony. God is at work in the world and in our lives. Your life is a life that evinces God's work and presence in your life, and this will all work out eventually. In the meantime it takes faith... And you seem to have a great reservoir of that.

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  4. God be with you and I will remember you in my prayers. Sincerely, a brother.

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  5. God be with you and I will remember you in my prayers. Sincerely, a brother.

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  6. Hi Andy. Thanks for sharing your experience here. I like how you focus on yourself, working to do the right thing, and your relationship with God rather than let yourself become distraught and bitter about the Church and its culture. It's so easy to do that, and I've seen many people succumb to that negativity. I also can relate with much of what you said and have experienced, though with me it was a process of a number of years to come to the same conclusions. In a sense what we are doing is like bypassing middle management at a corporation. After you've done everything you can do to work with your managers (priesthood leaders) and not be able to make positive and constructive progress, then it's time to go to the big boss. They may be miffed, and your coworkers (brothers and sisters in the church) may be scandalized, but as you said you have to live your life for you and how you see fit. They can worry about the business (the church) and we will worry about ourselves and our relationship with the boss (God). I hope the analogy works :) That's kinda how I think about it. Anyway, I hope you keep focusing on the good, on love, on God, on positive relationships. I'll work to do the same. Thanks Andy :)

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  7. I only hope your ward and Bishop are as loving and welcoming as you so deserve. Bless you for your courage, integrity, and humble heart. You are indeed a role model that I would be proud to have my own sons look up to as they learn to navigate right and wrong in this world. In my own personal life I am dating a man who was excommunicated himself (for other things) and this helped me have a better insight as to his understanding and devotion to our Heavenly Father still even now.

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  8. Wow! You stated this really well. I'm glad you're doing alright--I've been thinking about you a lot.

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  9. Ditto on Belinda's remarks. While some of us are more open minded and happy and accept you where you are, I think the church itself has a hard time with change. It starts with us as individuals. The gospel really is about love and sometimes if not most of the time, we get caught up with the churchy part.
    This question has hit me pretty hard recently: do I worship God or Mormonism? The gospel is more than just going to church. The church part is just the delivery mechanism led by volunteers who, for better or worse, have their own understanding and bias's. God bless you for seeking his guidance in your life. I think the day will come when things will change on a church level. It is just a matter of time.

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  10. Yesterday my roommate asked my why gay men sounded different.I thought about it for a minute and came to the conclusion that when i am happy i sound more flamboyant. You have chosen to be happy rather than constantly lie to your self (good job!!! I want to get there). I then showed him how anyone can change their voice and it is not some biological difference. Andy i don't know you but i am glad you are happy!

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