Saturday, November 7, 2015

A Response to the Mormon Church's New Policy

"But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 19:14


Jesus loves the little children
The internet has exploded with talk of the Mormon church's new policy changes. The first change edits the definition of apostasy. The new definition adds that entering a same-sex marriage constitutes apostasy. The second change now does not allow the children of gay couples to have a baby blessing, be baptized until they are an adult, and to serve a mission they must disavow their parents relationship. To say I was shocked with this new policy is an understatement. I have seen many other people that are confused and lost in this new information. I wanted to immediately write a blog post about my thoughts on the subject but I decided that it was best for me to wait a day and read all that I can from both parties that support or reject this new policy. I can honestly say I have never been so confused about the policy of the church in my life. I simply could not understand the reason behind such a terrible new rule. I have prayed a lot so I wish now to share some of the thoughts I have had towards this touchy subject.

The church has a few arguments to support this new change that I wish to address:

1) This is ultimately to protect the children. The Mormon church believes that if they don't allow the children of gay couples to be baptized into the church that they are solving the dilemma of them having to decide if they will support their parents lifestyle or the Mormon church. This is the lamest excuse I have ever heard. Why would it make sense to bar someone from one of the essential ordinances to return to live with Heavenly Father because they don't want them to have to go through a hard time? What about all the gay couples that love the church still and want their children to grow up in this amazing gospel with all the values and lessons their children would learn?  If the child is at a Mormon church, then that means that their parent almost positively supports their decision to be there.

Sometimes I feel like people believe that just because someone is in a gay relationship that they must hate the church and no longer be a Christian. I know so many people, myself included, that don't feel that way! Gay members of the church have already been knocked down so many times. So many of us have kept getting back up. We keep coming, we keep our testimonies, and we keep hoping that even though the church doesn't support our decision to live the "gay lifestyle" that there is still truth and light to be gained from the church.

The church says they are doing this to protect the children but all I can see is how this will hurt the child and their family. What about how the child feels when all of his friends his age are getting baptized? What about how the child feels when he can't pass the sacrament or hold callings? What about how the child feels when he is denied the blessing of going to the temple to do baptisms for the dead? Membership in the Church encompasses every part of your life. I was preached to all the time as a teenager that I needed the gospel in my life to make it through those rough years. I was told I needed to go to seminary every morning before school to have that spiritual strength each day. That is why I cannot understand why the church feels that it is best that some children be denied this.

This decision also affects the children of divorced parents where one of the spouses may have entered into a marriage with someone of the same gender. How is that protecting the rights of the parent whose child cannot be baptized because her ex husband is gay? The church says that a upon turning 18 a child can then be baptized if they disavow their parents marriage but seriously think about that for a second...how can we expect an 18 year old who has been denied all these blessing their whole life to actually want to be a part of the church that has outcasted them because of their parents? I can't see many 18 years olds choosing baptism.

2) The church has been doing this with families that practice polygamy for years. Please stop comparing this new policy to polygamy! First off, just because the church has been doing this to polygamist families does not mean that it is right. That's like saying, "Oh, it's okay that I raped this person because I have been doing it for years to this other person." This is also a completely different scenario. What of the children of abusive parents, or alcoholic parents, or a parent that is a murderer? These children are welcomed into the church with open arms unless their parents are gay or they have more than 2 parents.

3) The church doesn't treat LGBT members worse than any other sinners. I am just going to laugh at that one...I don't know who they are trying to fool but they treat LGBT so much harsher than our hetersexual counterparts. (For example...not allowing a gay couples kid to be baptized as opposed to a child whose mother is living with her unwed boyfriend but still allowing her child to be baptized).

Do you want to know how this announcement really made me feel? I am not saying that this is what the church intended from this new policy change but this is how it made me feel: 

I feel almost as if this was a calculated move by the general authorities. More and more people are getting married to the same gender and have their kids go to church. The more that this happens, the more the general population of the church will realize that we are normal and good. They will realize we can still have strong testimonies and be Christlike individuals even if we are gay. The church doesn't want members hearts to change towards gay people because then that might mean they have to change doctrine and that is very hard to do. I feel like it is an attempt to strike now before we gain too much support. I feel like this is trying to make things very black and white: the church wants nothing to do with gays and anyone that supports that way of life. They don't want gays so much that they are willing to potentially deny hundreds or thousands of children the ordinance of baptism and membership in the church. I feel like the church convinces/brainwashes its members to never doubt or question it's leadership or policies as being wrong because it is evil, bad, or of the devil. I feel like this is a specific attack against a specific group of people, where the church is saying, "We don't want you or even your children to be a part of our community." That is disgusting and completely against what Christ taught.



This new policy hurts me. It hurts me because I know that Joseph Smith was a prophet and that The Book of Mormon is true. It hurts me because children are going to be denied blessings that I believe are very real and that I have experienced as a member of the church. It hurts me because if I ever have kids in the future then they would also be denied membership of the church that I would want them raised in. It hurts me because I am trying so hard to stay active at church even with how they feel about someone like me and this now just makes it even harder.

I believe it takes great courage to do what I am doing. I cannot bite my tongue. I cannot try to ignore this. I cannot give up on the idea that I can change people's hearts for the better. I am willing to bet that you have been trained by the church to ignore such blasphemous talk. I remember what it used to feel like to hear hard things like this and I would immediately tune out what was being said to me because doubting was wrong. I invite you to take more of these "hard" ideas to the Lord in prayer. Do your homework and come up with your own conclusion on the subject. Then, ask if that conclusion is correct or not. You should have absolutely nothing to worry about because you should get the exact same answer that the church is teaching you, right? What do you have to lose?

I felt something break inside of me last night when I read the news. This was the last straw. I can no longer support an institution that so blatantly discriminates against a group of people.




9 comments:

  1. I don't know you but your comments on your Facebook page made me so sad with how unsupportive they were. I agree with your blog post completely and I'm a devout member of the church. Church policies change all the time and we all have a right to respectfully disagree with them sometimes when we see a clear reason why they're harmful and hurtful. That doesn't mean we're apostate or going down a wrong path. Recently the church has made changes to policies and it's because people spoke up.

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  2. And I would've written that comment on Facebook so the other commenters could see but it wouldn't let me.

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  3. And I would've written that comment on Facebook so the other commenters could see but it wouldn't let me.

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  4. I understand your point of view,but mine is different. I felt peace since I heard these words. Why would I feel the Spirit? Because they're truth. God is not trying to be popular, He's being our Father. He's directing us in the ways of truth and righteousness.
    I am gay. I am not living the life of a gay man, not that I haven't tried. When I tried dating men, my spirit was constantly offended and I was driven out of places, and away from people, because God didn't want me around that influence I suppose. He needs me in other places. And I followed. I am not an active person in the gay community. I have become active again in the church, after years of inactivity. I have a temple recommend. Most importanly, I have peace. I have the Holy Ghost, and I have that with me abundantly. I pray for all those who are still searching diligently for what THEY ALREADY KNOW. You know the truth. What's supposed to be sacred - KEEP IT SACRED. Cover it up. Keep it appropriate, and keep your mind in the right places. Pray. Always. Have the bravery to get up and get AWAY from what is unworthy to be in your presence.

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    1. Unknown, you are actually wrong. Other people heard these word and didn't feel peace. Why didn't they feel the Spirit? Because they are false.

      Now, I don't really believe they are false, but frankly I don't really know they are true. And what you or I believe won't change whether they are true or false. I guess I am offering a suggestion: if you want to let people know that you believe in something and encourage them to believe it, too, by all means do that. Just don't tell them that their feelings and experience are invalid, that they are essentially liars for not believing what you do, that there is something wrong with them if they didn't get the same confirmation, and that if they haven't received the same confirmation that they should follow your words because your righteousness makes you a prophet to them.

      What? You didn't say these thing? Oh, yes you did! You just used different words to say it.

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  5. Andy,

    This is so close to how I feel. Thank you for saying it.

    Your first point is what hurts me the most. I've seen so many people say "what gay couple would want their kids in the LDS church?" They think the strong reaction is fabricated by some gay activists in San Francisco or something. They seem to seriously have no idea that gay people exist who have testimonies and love the gospel. The sad thing is it seems the church wants to make sure it stays this way and "the gays" are always unknown far away scary people.

    When comparing the policies on children from gay and polygamist families, there are some interesting differences in the treatment. There policy for children from polygamist families seems more lenient in several ways.

    "Handbook 1, 16.3.9 Children Whose Parents Have Practiced or Are Practicing Plural Marriage

    Children of parents who have practiced or are practicing plural marriage contrary to the law must receive approval from the First Presidency before they may be baptized and confirmed. The mission president may request this approval from the Office of the First Presidency when he is satisfied that all three of the following requirements are met:

    The children accept the teachings and doctrines of the Church.
    The children repudiate the teachings upon which their parents based their practice of plural marriage.
    Minor children are not living in a home where polygamy is being taught or practiced."

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  6. Andy, I too felt the struggles of the policy change shake my foundations. I started to question ,like yiu did with your future children, my own children I have now. The policy of staying out of a relationship or evening thinking about looking for a relationship is hard enough but niw to throw my children under the bus when I do find a partner. All my kids are already baptized. But the other ordinances will they be with held ? And when the go for temple recommends will they have to say they don't associate with me me in answer to certain questions. They are making us and our children make a "Sophie's Choice" No one should have to choose between religion and family. I know people will say the policy says to disavow the act of same sex marriage and not the parent but in reality it is also disavow ing the parent as well. I am grieving with you Andy. We can support each other. I love you brother and know you are not alone. None of us are. We will find a way to get through this. Some may say patience and others may say action. Remember the holy ghost will prompt you in what you need to do. And what it tells you to do is right for you. If others get another prompting (like unkown in the comments above) that is his prompting for him. We are all individuals and God knows that each of us will react individually. My entire life I thought like the song "Follow the prophet and don't go astray." I blindly faithfully followed for my entire life. I am starting to think that I can no longer do that. Now my question for myself is do I practice patience or do I take action. Man I am rambling. Sorry Andy. Thanks for your blogs. I do enjoy them.

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  7. Thanks, Andy. It is brave of you to share your feelings. In a world where there may be retribution by family, friends, and the Church, it takes courage. It also takes courage because any Jor Schmie can also comment on it. I'm One of those. I want to first validate your feelings. Unlike other cimmenters, I believe you can have your opinion. Secondly, I agree. It is more difficult than people imagine being a gay Mormon. You believe in the Gospel. You believe in marriage. You believe in families. And yet, you know you can NEVER have a marriage or a family. People don't realize what a blow that is. I love kids and am told by my extremely family oriented Church that I can't have them. If I do, I will be treated as an apostate. That is hard. It hurts. I see all of my siblings with their imperfect and unhealthy marriages and their kids and u still want it. Unlike polygamists, I don't "choose" to be gay. I just am. And because of that, I am already denied blessings. When my single friends "screw up" with an opposite sex person, the leaders treat it as a natural thing ("natural man" they say) and tell them to stop or get married. Me? If I'd screw up, I am an apostate. Instead of "natural man, I am a decent and "un-natural" man.


    So, instead of just believing, I struggle and wrestle with this. It makes me sad. It makes me more alone and ostracized by the Church. I know this is what they want. They'd like for me to go away. But, my current church leaders and family want me to stay. They love me. I'm just not sure u can stay much longer. Many friends have left. Not because they are "apostates" or want to live the gay "lifestyle" but because they aren't wanted or lived and can't partake in the same family blessings as others. I'm close. The past few days is making it difficult to stay.

    Much love, bud. Your friend.

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